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The Christianization Of the Malay Youth.


 


 


 


 


The Christianization Of the Malay Youth. Response to annuar_vr4 (Re : Assalamualaikum)


 


Assalamualaikum….


Bissimillahirahmanirrahim…..


 


Along bukan jenis yang pandai bebicara… so I guess I’m just gonna start …


 


The only problem kenapa kita tak boleh ubah perlembagaan untuk accommodate peraturan- peraturan/ hukum hakam Islam bagi menghalang orang melayu islam daripada menukar agama ialah Rukun Negara .


 


Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan menjanjikan kebebasan beragama kepada semua individu maksud nya setiap orang di bumi Malaysia ni regardless of their race and original religion ada hak sivil  menukar agama mereka…


 


Itu belum cerita pasal Human Right lagi…… kalau boleh sekalipun perlembagaan ditukar untuk memastikan Hukum Allah berjalan lancar…  memacam masalah akan timbul. It’s not just a simple issue of just implementing the law, Firstly the law itself will be under attack from foreign media especially if harsh punishment is applied.  The foreign media will argue that the right to religion is one of the basic in human right… to them no one can deny someone of their right to religion


 


so the governments hand are tied because they inherited a jurisprudence  system which are deliberately designed to served colonial (Christian) interest long after they leave this country… 


 


(Jgn lupa siapa the British Empire yang sebenarnya…. It’s the same government that the caliph fought during the crusade; the same government that Salahuddin Al Ayubbi fought when he fought King Richard the Lion Hearted ; The same government that took over Palestine when it fall into Christian hand.It is the same monarchy.) from all this experience fighting muslim all over the world that they realized that an all out war with muslim in the Malay Penisular would be to costly in term of time and man power. This is why semasa memula British jejak kaki di tanah melayu, they choose a relatively calm approach. (kalau nak dibandingkan dengan Spanish in Filipina Dan Belanda di Indonesia)   


 


Other than that, there also domestic implication, it will surely disrupt the delicate balance of a racially-based multiparty coalition government. Don’t think that they wont oppose it outright from the beginning. The law will be under fire long before it is implemented. Jangan ingat mereka takkan tarik diri dari Barisan Nasional ( Satu pengkhinatan yang sentiasa  berada di dalam minda mereka.)<<< another issue yang perlu diberikan perhatian.


 


Tidak dinafikan … However flawed the system, this is the only system we got…..that is why  we cannot simply discard the system we’re using just because we don’t like the way that it’s  going…. That would only lead to civil unrest  So the only choice  we have is to go around the system however subversive that may seem …..


 


Sebab apa pun kita cakap kat sini…. Berapa ramai orang pun yang usul benda nie… Kerajaan takkan boleh buat apa pun …. Bukan perkara baru… boleh kata dah jadi isu basi …. Kerajaan still tak boleh buat apa-apa. ( The government itself is not at fault..)


 


I’m not asking that  we resolve to desperate / drastic measure …. I don’t believe in violence because I think that Malaysia owe it’s prosperity due to the peaceful environment that exist here. But I do believe that someone should act and something must be done. Ini bukanya isu kecil , We are talking about the mass Christianization  of our youth, bukannya isu yang kita boleh bualkan dalam kedai kopi macam isu minyak naik harga ataupun isu tol naik lagi. Takkan kita nak tengok anak bangsa Melayu Islam kita tukar agama reramai. ( Sesuatu yang belum jadi lagi, Tapi ada sesapa kat sini berani jamin benda nie takkan terjadi Di Malaysia ?)


 


Habis apa kita nak buat ???


 


Along bersuara di sini kerana along percaya along mempunyai direct channel ke pucuk pimpinan Pekida di dalam forum ini. ///


 


Along takkan bercakap apa yang along suarakan di sini dengan sesapa saja… along pilih dengan sapa along bercakap pasal isu nie…


 


Along besuara di dalam Forum ini kerana Along Percaya that Pekida Have the resources to at least  act on the issue.. Along tak nampak memana organisasi-organisasi lain yang boleh memainkan peranan dalam isu ini dengan berkesan. I Sincerely believe that only Pekida And Pekida alone have the abilities to act decisively on the matter at hand. 


 


What I am proposing is just the formation of a taskforce dedicated to resolving the issue at hand. The Main objective of this task force  is to identify mana mana individu  yang menjadi  pendakwah Kristian.


 


Let’s face it, seseorang itu takkan murtad dengan sendirinya, mesti ada pemangkin. ( Kalau tak pun direct cause mengapa seseorang individu Melayu Islam itu sanggup menjual akidah mereka)


 


What is to be done after we have identify those involved is totally up to the Pekida’s leadership


 


Niat Along ialah agar sekurang-kurangnya aktiviti-aktiviti kafir-kafir Harbi ini dipantau. The main idea is information gathering so that we’ll have a basic understanding as to what is happening to our Bangsa. This is important so that we can decide rationally what the next step should be. It’s the least we can do. And it is surely better than doing nothing at all… The Truth is that most of us is still in the dark as to our current situation …. Selalu kita dengar  Si Polan tu dah murtad ( Berita yg sepatutnya jarang didengar… tapi makin hari makin selalu didengar) tapi berapa ramai sebenarnya dah murtad on the national level kita masih tak tau figure sebenar…. (Kenapa kita tak tahu?)


 


 


 


 Salah satu kumpulan yang Along rasa perlu diperhatikan ialah pelajar-pelajar Serawak Evangelical Christian. They are mostly devout Christian yang rata-ratanya percaya akan besarnya pahala berdakwah ( spreading the Gospel) They target their fellow university student…(We’re losing a lot of intellectuals who would rather be Christian than Muslim….) Tool yang mereka gunakan … Bible berbahasa Melayu… ( Sesuatu yang  kononnya telah lama diharamkan di bumi Malaysia)


 


 


Let me relates to all here a personal experience …..


 


This happened almost a year ago… I confronted someone from the above group that they shouldn’t try to interfere with a Muslim’s Akidah… The answer I’ ve got from him is : “ Korang melayu bukan boleh buat apa pun…” I’m not trying to prove anything … or  fuelled any sentiment ….I’m just  bringing to light the realities of what is happening to our Bangsa …..


 


 


Along ingin memohon maaf sekiranya apa yang along utarakan di sini menyinggung perasaan mana-mana pihak… Terutama sekali pucuk pimpinan Pekida… Along sedar Along 29 bukan 30…  Bukan niat along nak mengajar pucuk pimpinan tentang apa yang perlu dilakukan. Along cuma menyuarakan pendapat peribadi Along…   


 


Any comment, critique or advice can be diverted to Alongwira513@yahoo.com


 


Alongwira513


Malaysia,Ma Lai Kuo Jia


513, Ma Lai Re Zi


Pekida, Ma Lai Ing Siong


 



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great posting laaa...bro along...


thanks for giving trust to Pekida to resolve the problem. The thing is that... u r not a member of pekida. Only seeing from outside. U will see that pekida cant do it today coz of some internal problem and members attitude we are having for quite some time.


Our mission nowis to educate our existing members and recruiting new one with a real education that is able to counter the christian doctrin...


So come and join us now...



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Is not easy to solve that problem consent...exspecially women at outside there...so easy to influence than...if they want twice a day...i'm believe they can get more..



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rule is rule. and the rule must follow guide from beautiful ISLAM....

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along,


good posting and points...first thing in my mind is our government is still the core to any laws in our country.and as a muslim,of course our Islamic dept.(represent each state dept.) should be the core to solve any islamic issues,followed by support from the state itself(MB,Dewan,Majlis etc).In moment,this issue becomes more bad(and maybe will worst in future) due to many factors such as hipocracy,corruption,just-see attitude,waiting-till-worst attitude,and bla,bla...i agree with u to bring this issue via this channel(if can la...) and for our own,jangan tidurrrr...laporkan segalanya dlm 999 eh silap...berwaspadalah..



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"great posting laaa...bro along... thanks for giving trust to Pekida to resolve the problem. The thing is that... u r not a member of pekida. Only seeing from outside. U will see that pekida cant do it today coz of some internal problem and members attitude we are having for quite some time. Our mission nowis to educate our existing members and recruiting new one with a real education that is able to counter the christian doctrin... So come and join us now... "


Seiring dengan pendekatan dakwah, PEKIDA mengambil pendekatan ISLAH yang menekankan strategi pembaikan, pembaharuan dan perdamaian dalam memanfaatkan apa jua bidang/urusan dan salah satunya ialah keujudan Forum ini. Satu pendekatan Rasulullah yang tercatit dalam Al-Quran dengan maksud, "Aku tidak bermaksud kecuali untuk melaksanakan pengislahan dengan segala kesungguhanku. Hanya kepada Allah aku bertawakal dan hanya kepada-Nya aku kembali."
(Hud: 88)


Kefahaman mengenai Islah itu sendiri adalah penting, nak counter christian doctrin it's not an easy job bro, we already have a good dakwah association and thier motto is as same as your concerned, and also have goverment...but again i must say our dakwah is not strong as they are compared to ours how many willing to do a free job nak dakwah kan org-org ni? PEKIDA it self? no need to eloborate more you should know and understand what's available here ;) as you go on ...


wassalam



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Assalamualaikum...///


satu topik yg menarik utk dibicarakan disini...


kerajaan dah buat pelbagai cara untuk membendung permasalahan ini...cuma kita nie yg "hendak dengan tidak hendak" memikirkan cara utk mengatasi permasalahan ini.... sepatutnya kita peka akan permasalahan ini ...dan bersama sama mengambil tindakan sewajarnya dalam menghadapi situasi begini..... "Manusia itu akan berubah sekiranya ...seseorang itu hendakkan perubahan" dan tindakan itu hendaklah disertakan dengan niat yg ikhlas dan pengorbanan yg jitu.......///



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Robbi quote:


Our mission nowis to educate our existing members and recruiting new one with a real education that is able to counter the christian doctrin...


Bentara' Qoute:


Kefahaman mengenai Islah itu sendiri adalah penting, nak counter christian doctrin it's not an easy job bro, we already have a good dakwah association and thier motto is as same as your concerned, and also have goverment...but again i must say our dakwah is not strong as they are compared to ours how many willing to do a free job nak dakwah kan org-org ni? PEKIDA it self? no need to eloborate more you should know and understand what's available here ;) as you go on ...


Along minta maaf if i seem to relay the wrong information ....


There is no use in countering the Christian Doctorine... that have been goin on for almost 1500 year...... As i said.... If we are meant to to beat the Christian Doctrine , we would have done  it hundreds of year ago... Waktu kegemilangan Islam .... (Remember Cordova? ) ... Sampailah Nabi Isa A.S Turun dan mematahkan semua salib baru mereka akan sedar that the Christian Doctorine Is wrong.... so there Is no use in fighting them... but until then we have to do everthing that is possible to stop the Christianization of our Youth...........


My Original Quote :...


"Niat Along ialah agar sekurang-kurangnya aktiviti-aktiviti kafir-kafir Harbi ini dipantau. The main idea is information gathering so that we’ll have a basic understanding as to what is happening to our Bangsa. This is important so that we can decide rationally what the next step should be. It’s the least we can do. And it is surely better than doing nothing at all… "


 



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Semoga kita dilindungi dari bala bencana dan dakyah kafir laknat ni.......


Yang penting kita sebagai umat Islam harus bersatu....kuatkan imam tingkatkan perpaduan....


1.  Jangan kita sama kita yang bergaduh lagi-lagi "Adik-Beradik" dengan "Adik-Beradik".


2.  Jangan pentingkan diri....dan bersatu sebab kalau bersatu ni ibarat "Penyapu Lidi"...kalau sebatang senang je orang nak patahkan.Tapi kalau seikat susah lah sikit....kalau banyak ikat langsung tak boleh...


*** Bersatulah wahai orang Melayu & Islam.



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apakah tindakan kita............?


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Assalamualaikum...///


Pandangan saya sama seperti pandangan saya dalam thread Pengedaran Bible di kalangan pelajar Melayu di ruangan Berita. >


Pernahkah kita bertanya kenapa dan mengapa umat kita sendiri yang dahulunya Islam boleh murtad? Kalau orang asli, kita boleh maklum, yang mereka tiada agama sebelum dikristiankan. Tetapi bangsa Melayu dan dilahirkan beragama Islam yang murtad itu terdiri daripada golongan cerdik pandai, berpelajaran. Cuba kita tanya diri kita sendiri, mana silap kita pula. Adakah Bible mereka cukup hebat, sedangkan Al-Quran merupakan kitab terakhir, the latest, yang dah tentu melengkapi segalanya. Tapi, pernahkan kita selami Al-Quran itu? Pernahkan kita gunakan apa yang ada dalam Al-Quran itu untuk mengukuhkan keyakinan saudara2 kita dengan mengadaptasikan pada kehidupan kita sekarang? Pernahkah kita gunakan Al-Quran itu sehabis-habisnya untuk menentang Bible atau hanya membacakannya sahaja tanpa mengaitkan dengan kehidupan kita di zaman ini? Cuba kita fikirkan.


Sepatutnya kita boleh singkap dan ulas apa yang terkandung dalam Al-Quran bagi menentang dakwah mereka. Bukan hanya bacakan Al-Quran dan andaikan apa yang terkandung dalam Al-Quran hanya untuk zaman dahulu atau zaman Rasulullah yang tidak ada kaitan dengan zaman sekarang.  Sebenarnya Al-Quran itu adalah manual kehidupan kita. Yang kita jadikan panduan samada kita di tahun 50an, 70an, 80a, 200 dan akan datang. Panduan Al-Quran adalah untuk sepanjang zaman dan masa. Untuk umat Islam dulu, sekarang dan akan datang.



 


Janganlah saudaraku risau. Amatilah dan hayati Surah ini.








Surah Al Maa'idah Ayat 54


Hai orang-orang yang beriman, barangsiapa di antara kamu yang murtad dari agamanya, maka kelak Allah akan mendatangkan suatu kaum yang Allah mencintai mereka dan merekapun mencintaiNya, yang bersikap lemah lembut terhadap orang yang mukmin, yang bersikap keras terhadap orang-orang kafir, yang berjihad dijalan Allah, dan yang tidak takut kepada celaan orang yang suka mencela. Itulah karunia Allah, diberikan-Nya kepada siapa yang dikehendaki-Nya, dan Allah Maha Luas (pemberian-Nya), lagi Maha Mengetahui.








 


Carilah kaum yang Allah cintai itu dan bersama-samalah berjihad bersama mereka. Insyaallah. Nak tau kaum tersebut, pm saya.



 



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